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Wednesday, 7 January 2009

Stories and photo's from the past.

Hi Gang,
Jackie is compiling our second book Memories from the past she has well over 100 pages so far.Please send us your stories and photo's so they can be included in our next book.The first one was a great success lets make book2 just as big.
 
 
Happy New year stay in touch.
 
Tommy

49 comments:

PDRAY said...

Tommy,good idea on a second book.Do you have some kind of timeline when you will be producing the next book so that anybody who is thinking of sending photos or stories will not be disapointed by sending them too late? Happy New Year,Paul.

Tags said...

How about by 2089 as I probably will not be here then.

Grace said...

Well Tommy there are many stories from the past on the cuckoo estate. Do you all remember the MUFFIN man who had a tray on his head filled with muffins{now they are called CRUMPETS] .when we had some we used a long handle fork with 3 prongs on it and toasted them in front of the fire, we did,nt have a toaster.
Another man who came round the streets selling was the Winkle MAN [dont laugh] he sold Winkle,s in pints or half pints ,we all sat at the table with a pin to pull them from their shells the black spots or maybe eyes ,not sure which,we used to decorate the plates and use them as beauty spots on our face ,make patterns on our forheads and arms all these things would be banned now and here we are ;young oldie,s: still alive to tell the tale Yipee

bob stevens said...

What about Charlie the rag and bone man from Notting Hill and Ernie the United Dairy milkman, his horse always dumped in the road outside 19 Upfield, I would try beet Mrs Kelly (1948,well in her 80s then)to the picking as my dad always wanted it for the rhubarb.

yvonneh said...

Bob, the rag and bone man Charlie was my uncle, he had a rag shop in Ladbroke grove. Did really well at it. He used to save the nice dresses for me and my mum used to have the rubbish coats to cut up for her rag rugs. When they built Milton Keynes he
got a bungalow there,died a few years later

yvonneh said...

Bob, the rag and bone man Charlie was my uncle, he had a rag shop in Ladbroke grove. Did really well at it. He used to save the nice dresses for me and my mum used to have the rubbish coats to cut up for her rag rugs. When they built Milton Keynes he
got a bungalow there,died a few years later

yvonneh said...

Bob, the rag and bone man Charlie was my uncle, he had a rag shop in Ladbroke grove. Did really well at it. He used to save the nice dresses for me and my mum used to have the rubbish coats to cut up for her rag rugs. When they built Milton Keynes he
got a bungalow there,died a few years later

grace said...

Talking of rag and bone men our grandfather was one he lived in SheperdsBush he used to give my mum clothes for us. ,we had some strange meals there as well ,Faggots ,peas pudding ,Saveloy,s and Pigs Trotters ,dont know if they sell them now bet they would,nt taste the same.

jim davis said...

Bad stutter you have there Yvonne.

Bob Stevens said...

Grace, Shepherds Bush, my aunt and uncle lived in Sulgrave road, when we visited, us kids were sent to Cook's the pie and eel shop at the end of the market for 4 pennyworth of mash,pie and liquer each.
A strange co-incidence, I now live in Sulgrave Nr. Banbury but we don't have a pie and eel shop so I still occationaly go to Cook's for the great british PIE and MASH with Liquer. M,MMM

Anonymous said...

Yvonne, Charlie was the son of my mum's friend, she lived in Portabeela Road before moving in 1937 to Upfield Road.
What a small world.

bob stevens said...

Anon was me

Tags said...

I think my great grannie did a little "Rag Picking" in her day.
They would unthread the gold (probably brass) elements and buttons etc. on the old British Crimean War uniforms and sell it.
It must run in the blood as I had a stall in the Portobello on Saturdays reselling retro clothing and bri-a-brac that I bought for pennies at village Church jumble sales.
That was good pie mash and fish liquer up the Bush, but their is a great one on the Essex coast (I think it was in Walton on Naze) it must be near the Bah Humbug pub.
I know that's a long way from Banbury Cross where the fine lady rode her white hoss though.
Usually you get pie'n mash or jellied eels near the White City dog track. I don't suppose it's there anymore.

yvonneh said...

Sorry about the stutter JZim dont know how that happened, Bob my dad came from the Portabello road he had 5 brothers and three sisters. My mum and dad also moved in 1937 to greatdown road, they were there for a year in the flats next door to Mr@MrsBrown. They
then moved to 11 Brants Walk and in 1947/8 moved to Upfield road. My mum said that when they moved in there were no roads as such. It is a small world, I think a lot of people were moved out of the slums and decanted at the same time. Grace I still have pigs trotters, usually get them from the butchers. Northfields Ave in West Ealing have an organic butchers and accross the road opposite the Co-op is another butchers that also sells all the offal including Faggots. I also used to get them in Norwich market. You can get them as a dinner in Waitrose with mash but they are not wrapped in the pigs,(i think its called chawl) like a veiny skin, Tom would know as an ex butcher. What I have been looking for and cant find any more is the hand and spring of pork with trotter attached and when do you see proper unsmoked bacon with rind on. Without being in a packet with all the water running out when you fry it. I am off to cook ken and myself soft herring roes on toast, as when I buy herrings to souse these days the roes have been taken out, the same with fresh cod roe all you get these days is tinned. I do however make my own pease pudding, the old fashioned way my mum taught me, I use yellow split peas and soak them overnight and tie them in a muslin bag pop them in the saucepan and boil until they are soft then mix up with salt pepper and butter. Here endeth the lesson and the moan.

grace said...

Great memory Yvonneh you made my mouth water,the only thing i did,nt like was jellied ells and tripe my Mum and Dad did . Its srange how a lot of us came from the same area,we lived off the Latimer road my Nan lived not far from us,the orher grand parents lived in fulham we used to cath the 207 trolly bus in the uxbridge road to sheperds bush station . When i was courting we used to go to the Bush empire to see the shows it now belongs to the BBC ps Glad i found this website cheers

PDRAY said...

Hi Grace,
Our family lived on Templeman Road and I can remember us all sitting around the table with needle in hand trying to get first the cover out of the winkles and then attempting to work the needle around in a circle trying to get the winkle out in one piece.The trick to enjoying a good winkle sandwich was first,butter the bread, then start winkling and wait until you get enough in a pile on your plate so you could get stuck into them.The only problem I had was that I had too many older sisters and they would pinch them off my plate.If they thought I was going to tell mum they would clip me around the ear or have their ever trusty hair brush in hand to wallop me.
Happy New Year...Paul.

yvonneh said...

Grace I am so glad you found the site too, it is great being in contact with friends who share the same backgrounds and experiences. I love the site, if I am feeling a bit low I know I can go onto it and read so many things that cheer me up, I never feel on my own as I know I can share memories with others and read theirs. I must tell you I love Jellied eels and winkles, but used to leave home when my mum cooked tripe for my dad and after watching River cottage with Hugh Fearnley Wittingstall and seeing what it was and how you have to clean it and whiten it, I know why.
I know Latimer Road very well my girls went to school there, the bus station was opposite the school
we moved to Mornington Crescent, just after Ken left the army after 17 years,he was a caretaker for the block of flats I worked in Baker street Buffet.If it hadnt been for mum being on her own after dad died we would have gone to Australia but instead we went to Bury st Edmunds. Keep the memories comming

PDRAY said...

Tommy,
Maybe you should have a special section just on food memories because as I read some of these stories all I keep thinking about is the food I miss living in America.
I remember my nan (Ruth Reardon) taking us to Cook's pie and eel shop in Shepherds Bush after going to the market when we were kids.My mum's family use to live in Shepherds Bush before moving to the Cuckoo Estates.The pie and mash was so good with all that green liquer over it.My dad loved the jellied eels but I could'nt eat them.My sisters and I much prefered the plain old pies.
A couple of years ago when I took my wife and two of my daughters on a vacation to London I suggested maybe we could have pie and mash for lunch.They turned their noses up at that suggestion and wanted to spend their time on more important things like Buckingham Palace,Tower of London and all the other places of interest.They don't know what they missed out on because I jumped on the tube to Shepherds Bush and got me a double pie and mash with green liquer and chin wagged with the ladies at Cook's and then I was so full I went and laid down on the grass at the park, that was just down the road, and took a nap.That's what I call enjoying London.
Bob Stevens,if your reading this I did not get 4 pennies worth at Cook's because I believe they would have told me to bugger off.I can't remember what I paid for my double pie and mash but it did not really matter because I was determined to have it no matter what the cost.
Happy New Year,Paul.

Anonymous said...

Paul Hi. nice to read your comments on Cook's believe or not the shop is still run by the origional owners family, it's now run by the great grandaughter and her son and daughter.
This week I went to Camden Town to another pie and eel shop Castle's in Castle Street and paid £7.75 for double eel, pie mash and liquer, a pie and mash would have been £2.75, shows how much eels have increased, that's why they make the pie from minced lamb now.
Mmmm breakfast time now, egg, bacon and a fried slice, to hell withh the cholestrial.

Anonymous said...

Again ANON was me

Anonymous said...

Did you notice the deliberate spelling mistakes i made in my last article its, all this lovely food you keep on about ,making my mouth water think i need a Dictionary or new Specs better still maybe both.There is nowhere here that i can buy that lovely .GRUB so how about a food parcel

grace said...

ANON was me GRACE

yvonneh said...

Talking about food , what about the puds. My mum used to make a treacle pud to die for, I cannot get it the same no matter what way I do it, she used to make a suet pud with syrup in the bottom ,sometimes jam, it used to go in a basin with a cloth over and into the, many times mended with potwashers, saucepan and boiled, but when it was served, it had a firm crunchy outer and the syrup had soaked in, it was served with custard delish. She also made a magnificent bread pudding,
she soaked the stale bread overnight and rung it out in the morning, then added the fruit, peel, spices and suet then into the oven. It lasted for days. I could go on and on as my mum loved baking and it was cheaper than bought, my dad used to take wedges of rice pudding to work with him, i preferred mine with milk. I can always remember baking day as it smelt like heaven, she made butterfly buns, shortbread, old maids, and swiss rolls, the Webb boys next door used to sit on the fence and wait for my mum to pass them some cakes. If she was making a steak and kidney pud, it would go into the basin and be boiled for hours in the copper in the scullery.

Dot said...

The last anonymous letter was from Dot Tessier.

PDRAY said...

If any of you reading this story ,that had an allotment near Castlebar Station,I will apoligize now for what I'm about to tell you.
Also ,I think the statute of limitations has expired by now as they were not capital offenses.
My house on Templeman Road backed up to the allotments and behind them was Castlebar Station. When we were about 8 years old,us boys would slither on our bellies in the long grass near the railroad embankment and pilfer stawberries,raspberries and any other berries we could find.Sometimes we would raid the rhubarb patches and scurry back into the woods and eat our spoils.The rhubarb was a little bitter but we ate it anyway remembering waste not want not.I don't know how many stomach aches I use to get from eating raw rhubarb,but I never learned.
Now and then we would steal a few potato's and in the woods nearby we would build a bonfire and put the spuds in the fire.When we thought they had cooked enough we would take them out of the fire so they could cool down a little.There was nothing better when your a kid ,around a fire, breaking that spud open so you could get to the cooked potato inside.Normally the outside of the spud was blackened from the fire so you can imagine how black our hands and faces were.Many a time we were chased out of those allotments but it never detered us because we would just go scrumping for apples and pears.
My reasoning for why we felt so compelled to do this foraging was millions of years ago man was a hunter/gatherer and through time our genetics were imbeded with this impulse.It sure sounds like a good excuse but some may call us little buggers and that most probably is closer to the truth.

Anonymous said...

Am just trying this out,as I seem to have had a 'junior moment' & have not been ablt to get my info on the site.
If it works,thanks again for the help Tommy.
Angela

jim davis said...

I would not hazard a guess what kind of moment you just had Angela. But I am sure it wasn't a Junior one.

Anonymous said...

i have loved reading about everyons memerys about shephards bush last january my daughter was in st. thomas hospital with a premiture baby so suggested we took a bus to shephards bush so i could treat her to some real pies and mash the shop was not there any more or we just missed it i was realy disapointed but it was great to be back it was at least 30 years since i was there last

Val B said...

Yeah PD Ray you've awakened more memories. My friend Val Eaton and I used to creep into the vicarage garden at St Christophers which was next door to me. Like you we used to gorge ourselves on strawberries, gooseberries etc until we could eat no more.Then we had the cheek to turn up at Willy Walkers door the next day for confirmation classes. Not that they lasted! Happy days!

bob stevens said...

To Anon from Bob Stevens
Can assure you the pie and eel shop in Shephers Bush is still open and serving the most valued meal of my life, as I mentioned earlier as long ago as 1947/8 as a youngster I would go there.
Mmm may have some tomorrow.

Anonymous said...

hi i talked about not finding the pie and mash shop in shephards bush i must have forgeten where it was we are going basc when the weather gets wormer i will look again

Del said...

If it's still in the same place, look underneath the arches. I did some posters for the owners when I was at art school, got a free meal plus two quid and was only charged half price whenever I went in there later. They were about the only proper meals that I had for a long time. Luvley grub! Del.

jim davis said...

Whilst the conversation is still on Pie Mash liquor and Eels. A trip to Greenwich for those of you that have not been, it is well worth a visit. There is the magnificent Maritime Museum, the lovely park and very interesting Obsevatory, both free entry. Several Markets, and to top it all just round the corner from the Railway Station there is a Pie & Eel shop second to none. When you first glance inside it looks grubby, but it isn't. It has been in the same family for Five generations, and what looked grubby was in fact just the old fashioned tile top tables etc, from way back when. So get out those freedom passes and have a good day out.

Tommy. said...

Jim I agree with you,Sue and I on our frequent visits to my homeland have visited this Pie and mash cafe on numerous occasions.It is well worth the time and effort to catch one of the boats that go down to the Thame barier and spend some time visiting Greenwich with all its history.It is very quaint and takes you back in time.

Anonymous said...

Hi there my name is ted baker i used to live at 73 westcott cresent. i was born there in 1940.There was 7 of us kids, with my mum Annie and dad Ernie.My oldest brother Ernie, now called pip. a tv writer. the likes of some tv doctor who series in the 70s 80s. my sister pat who still lives on the estate. westcott crescent. My other brother David. lives in greenford. Me i now live in leyton e10. my brother under me who is charlie who works for airospace. my other brother Roy who lives in Ealing. my sister Cristine.I was five when the war ended. but i still remember the doogal bomb. and look up and see the dog fights in the air.I lived on the estate right up to 1968. got married moved to norwood green.Marrige broke up came back to the estate and brought a house in westcott crescent. in 1976. got married again in 1989. moved to crew went to bible collage. Came back to the estate started a youth club Called Praisegang. had over 900 kids over nine years we was there. My wife joined the london city mission. moved to were we are now.There are many things that happend to me why i lived on the estate when i was young.Good and bad.thats another chapter. i will talk about another time. by the way ive tryed to get on your site for the last four days with no luck. How many more have tryed and given up.by Ted

jim davis said...

Hi Ted, welcome to cuckooites, if you or anyone you know have problems coming to the site. Then go to Google, enter just one word (cuckooites) you will the go to a page with a direct link to us. Actually it might be a good idea for all of us to let it be known to our contacts. I wonder how many others may have been put off by giving up trying. What schools did you go to whilst on the cuckoo Ted was it The Cuckoo Seniors?

Ted baker said...

Hi there yes i did go to cuckoo school enfant and junior and then the senior's and left when i was 15. didnt learn much always in trouble i was out side the head masters office most days. they made up a special glass for us called the upper removed. What ever that means.there was 12 us in that class.The word going around at that time was that they sent us to borstal. your kick us out Most of us could'nt read or write. i know the day my mum took me to school the first time when she got home i was sitting on the door step at home.In the end i did go but i was always in trouble at school and at home and at church. later on when i was about 10 i was a choir boy. the church in borders road.I forget the name at the moment.Only did it for the money.My wife keeps on trying to get me to write my life down in a book.Anyway im going to chage the subject. did anyone remember game we used to play like tin can tommy,fag cards in a book. you put some cards in a book and the person trys to win your card by putting one of there's in the page, but if there was nothing there they lost and have to leave it in the book/ what about the game were you put a bit of cotton on some ones knocker and you hid across the road, you pulled the cotton so it would knock on the door. who ever was in would come out and see that there was no one there.Mined you could only do it a couple of times before they would catch on. great fun when you was growing up on the estate. my dad used to make most of my toys. and for the other kids. there was no money about in thoes days. i used to dig up horse radish from over the fields, and sell them around the houses six pence a bag. money went on sweets and fizzy drinks in hanwell near the clock penny a small bottle. the best game we played was a book on a skate you used to sit on it were we lived was on a hill. you could pick up bit of speed.As there was no cars in thoes days. mined you i got knock down by a bike. That hurt. people used say the good old days when you was our age you never new any difrent. but im 68 now these are the good days lovely and warm. not like then all sitting around one fire. didnt what to leave it because when you did the rest of the house was freezing. the only other warm place was your bed i used to sleep with my brother. and my other brothers used to sleep in the other bed.And thats were im going now its two in the morning. by Ted.

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