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Saturday, 1 August 2009

August Chat Room.

 

70 comments:

Editor said...

Last month we had a great variety of subjects we chated on and I would like to see us follow with a lot more of the same,Well done gang.

jim davis said...

Hello Lynn I think the comment you made last month was very nice, and I am pleased that you do keep a check on this site and contribute when you can. I am afraid I am not the kind of person that panders to people that come to this site whining about their past. It is true bad things happened on the Cuckoo, but no more or no less than any other area of comparable size. Some of our old neighbors had truly heart wrenching stuff happen to them that did not seem fair, but by and large they overcome their sorrow. I did not know life was meant to be fair, but I do know the mark of a man or woman is how they react to life's trials. They have a choice, to remain a victim throughout their lives or get over it. I guess by now you know what kind of person I can't abide.

sally said...

Hi jim,I can understand how you feel.But the fact is not everyone can put the past behind them and get on with life.Those of us that do are very lucky.I think anon.has got on with his or her life, but reading our site has is seams brought back bad memories.We all try on here to be uplifted in our comments don,t we.perhaps if anon.gave our site a miss in future it might be better for them rather than stirring up bad memories of their past.I for one tnink it is great that so many get to gether like this to chat about our childhood but then again where we the luckier ones??? whose to say.love to all xxxx sally

jim davis said...

Hello sally I agree with what you have just said, and I am not insensitive about the way other people feel. But there is a manner of expressing your feelings in a way I think most people including myself would not object to. That is by showing due respect and consideration for other folk and their feeling. Respect and understanding should be reciprocal not just a one way street.

sally said...

Hi jim, I agree with you in that.But it seemed to me that they were so worked up about it they just lashed out, perhaps without thinking.Lets hope so and then maybe when they feel calmer they might come back and enjoy. x x x

JohnB said...

Hi Sally I hope you are well, have you heard from Lizzie lately??
We have had a record breaking July here in Chicago, there have been very few days that reached 80 degrees farhenheit, and I believe only one day that reached 87 degrees. The jet stream has been carrying cool Alaskan and Canadian air to us.
Unlike poor Tommy who is taking the heat in Seattle, I imagine Angela has been getting dangerously 102 degree hot weather too, I hope she is coping with
it OK.
Cheers, love John.

georgek said...

Here in East Anglia its around 20 degrees,under 70,and its August,I have a bad back,the grass needs cutting,the hoovering needs doing,Jim can you spare a few hours!!

jim davis said...

Yes George of course I have, but I don't think you could afford me.

sally said...

Hello John,No I have not heard from Liz lately.The weather down here in somerset has been very very wet this past month.We are hoping for a better Aug.Hope all is well with you and Tony.One of my daughters her husband and two girls plus my youngest son are at Angelas at the moment on holiday and have said it is very hot. Speak again soon love sally x x x

JohnB said...

Thank you Sally,
Tony has not heard anymore back from Liz either, I hope she is OK.
That's nice that your daughter and her family are visiting their Aunt Angie, hopefully you'll all be getting better weather soon. I'm afraid ours it about to start warming up and I expect a very hot muggy August from now on.
Love,
John

tommy said...

Sally,I hope your daughter and family are enjoying our state of Washington,yes it is very hot in Spokane right now but they should be able to get lot's of sunbathing in.Is there a chance you may come over some time,Many Cuckooites have ties to Washington thru their children living here.Sheila Day has a son also Dot Tesier has a son and grandchildren living here.

Ethel (Stevens) Damian said...

Tom, you forgot to include my husband George. He is a Washingtonian, bred and born. He left the little town of Brewster (not too far from Angie, and in apple country) when he joined the USAF. His mother still resides there and we visit her at least two times a year, so our ties there are very strong.

Anonymous said...

We had a wonderful visit with Sally's great kids & went to the huge O'Sullivan family reunion in Plains Montana

Tommy said...

Soon we will be able to have a North American Cuckooite Reunion,how about that.

JohnB said...

Tommy,
...If we have it Vegas maybe Grace will come to it.

Eff said...

I think it would be a great idea. Make it in the first three months of the year when Geo and I are outside Alaska, unless of course you all want to come up here. We sure would tear the town up, wouldn't we!

JohnB said...

It may be a bit too cold for Tommy to do a Full Monty in Alaska Eff.
We don't want anything to drop off, remember what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas.

Grace said...

John B I will take up the offer of a trip tp Vegas just need a few more pennies,any chance of a lone ?
Will be in the USA in Oct for 5 weeks next year maybe my last trip,unless i find a rich man or win the LOTTO.

JohnB said...

Grace I wish you luck with the Lotto and finding a rich man.

A few pennies I can spare...as for the lone you mentioned...did you mean a lone wolf, lone star cowboy,
or the lone ranger?

I hope it won't be your last trip Grace, but the way the economy is I think we all may have to be a bit careful.

Thank you for being such a good sport. Ill buy you a drink in Vegas
if it ever happens.

Grace said...

John B See what happen,s when i get excited ,spelt a word wrong i will settle for the Lone Ranger he was the one in the mask very mysterious i [checked that word],will you be at the reunion? weather lovely here today going to do some gardening then feet up and relax.

JohnB said...

I may be at the masked ball in disguise...who knows?

jim davis said...

I read an article over the weekend a woman wrote. She and a group of friends mostly in their 60s and 70s fourteen of them in all, had a nice day out to the coast,then finished the day off with a meal in posh restaurant. The waiter serving them asked what was the reason for the dinner?. She replied. " We did it as a surprise for one of out ladies because she is 92 today" Just with two words the waiter made a new friend, and thirteen instant enemies. He said "Which one?.

Sally(ware) said...

Anonymous was my sister Angie in Spokane Love sally x x x

jim davis said...

I think you will like this one Yvonne. Jan and I went to Portsmouth on Saturday, parked up near the Hovercraft terminal then walked along the seafront to the Historic Dockyard. On the way there is a Church that at first just looked like a ruin. It was in the front part, but the back was still being used as a Naval Chapel, it was small but very nice. Running the length of the left hand wall there were three rows of pews. In the back row a brass plaque was set in the back of alternate seats. Generals, Admirals and other high ranking officers names were there with a seat next to each for wives. A man and woman were in the Chapel obviously minding the place, and whilst I was looking at the pews the man came over and without me asking started to tell me about them. His voice and manner suggested to me that he was a typical officer type and he said, "the back row names were in honour of very high ranking and famous officers. The middle row was of middle rank officers, and the front row" That is where I stopped him, I said "never mind about that where is the places that honour the Cannon Fodder." He was shocked, embarrassed and managed to stutter" Err! Err! pardon". I said "you know, you must know the boys that do the fighting and are the ones that mostly gets killed." I took great delight in making him feel uncomfortable and he waved his hand towards the door and sheepishly said," Err! Out there." It wasn't much but I felt like I said something for those that gave their all.

jim davis said...

I entered the last comment for a second time because the first one does not show in the lists of entries.

yvonneh said...

Well done Jim a person after my own heart. cannon fodder is a term I havent heard, it was always the other ranks. In the army it was officers and their ladies. Sergeants and their wives and other ranks and their women, the forces were a breeding ground for inequality on a par with the public schools and still are, as you have seen.

jim davis said...

I don't know how the term of cannon fodder came about Yvonne, but it means they were an unimportant commodity just put in the front line to be shot at. Whatever your views on Afghanistan and Iraq, our servicemen and women over hundreds of years have made this country what it is today. Now after all those millions of wasted lives, it would seem we are hell bent on giving it all away.

JohnB said...

How's the weather in England, we've got great weather here this week?

georgek said...

Just got back from Walton On The naize,Joan and our 16yr old granddaughter,had fish and chips,the cafe was right by the sea and the weather was wonderful.I do love summer..

JohnB said...

There's a good eel pie and mash shop in Walton-on-Naze.
Did you ever go up the tower, it's a good view from the top.
Pity the way the coast is eroding now. Enjoy the rest of summer.

yvonneh said...

what did you have george. Ken and I used to go to the pub on the front we found they did the best fish and chips in the naze.Have you been to the seafood restaurant, up the side street. they do every kind of shellfish, we used to buy a takeaway selection and armed with our trusty pin would take them up to the naze and eat them. looking at that beautiful veiw

JohnB said...

Did you know that, that area of England near Walton and St.Osyth's get's the least amount of rain?

JohnB said...

I didn't say this, a French writer is alledgedly reported to have said it first regarding the Napoleonic Wars.
Who knows how true that is, it could have been Will Shakespeare who said it first.

"On en était venu à ce point de mépris pour la vie des hommes et pour la France, d'appeler les conscrits la matière première et la chair à canon" —

translation:

"the contempt for the lives of men and for France herself has come to the point of calling the conscripts 'the raw material' and 'the cannon fodder'."

yvonneh said...

John I lived in St Osyth for ten years and our garden used to get waterlogged, we had sea on three sides of us and a lake with the road running over it to Point Clear
where we lived, so when the lake came over we were cut off. The ferry only runs for a few months of the year, that took you to Brightlingsea. I dont know where you got the info from as when we used to drive to the Naze along the sea front at Clacton the lanes to Frinton used to be awash with water several times a year. Yet it was always warm even though it rained.

JohnB said...

I'm pretty sure it was right once,
I think it may have been just St.Osyth's. Although with global warming maybe it's not so anymore.
I think I either read it or my brother told me, he's lived in that area (not St.Osyth's)for years. He had friends in St.Osyth's there big long garden ran down to an inlet or river as I remember.

JohnB said...

Yvonne I just found this info on the web...but I'll check it out further next week and get back to you.
Cheers.

Rainfall in England varies widely. The Lake District is the wettest part, with average annual totals exceeding 2,000 mm (this is comparable with that in the western Highlands of Scotland). The Pennines and the moors of south-west England are almost as wet. However, all of East Anglia, much of the Midlands, eastern and north-eastern England, and parts of the south-east receive less than 700 mm a year.

JohnB said...

Yvonne,
I did find this on Wikipedia the on-line encyclopedia.

In terms of annual average rainfall, St Osyth is the driest recorded place in the UK, with an average of just 513 mm per year. By some definitions, this is low enough to classify St Osyth as a desert.

Funny, but maybe it just rained a lot when you lived there?

I think they get most of the rain in the winter which could explain it.

jim davis said...

With Wikipedia there is no knowing whether the stuff in it is fact, fiction, or just opinion. I do use it but with caution. Anyone can go there and add to what is written without it being scrutinized first. Thankfully most people that enter things are well meaning fairly knowledgeable persons. Obviously Wikipedia is used by people to find the answer to something. So the question remains, how do you or I know if an entry has been put on there by an intelligent knowledgeable person, or just one that thinks he is. So take what is on there with a very large pinch of salt. For verified fact look elsewhere.

JohnB said...

Yes it is like that, but it did confirm what I thought, for the most part responsible people contribute to it.

Tommy said...

Very well said Jim,age is a figment of the imagination.

JohnB said...

There must be another source in England that could verify that for you Yvonne if you do doubt that it is accurate. It may not be true as Jim suggested and there may be some other explanation for it being recorded as such. Then again I guess it doesn't matter if you don't live there anymore, it certainly was not my intention to sound like a know it all though, I can't stand people who act like that myself either, still nobody is perfect, in spite of what they think of themselves.

yvonneh said...

John thankyou for the info I certainly dont think you are a busy body and value the info you give(even if it did rain constantly) the problem is that the part of St Osyth we lived in Point Clear, got waterlogged very quickly as it was surrounded by water, but we never had any real storms although in the ealy 1900s they had floods that killed quite a few people it covered Jaywick and St Osyth also farms were ruined when the sea came in, we also had klaxons in case it happened again and instructions on what to do. Although they have built up the sea wall all the way through to Clacton, keep up the titbits very useful.

JohnB said...

I figured it was probably more of a tidal related thing Yvonne.
Like the floods on the east coast in the 1950's in England.
That was a real disaster and caused by a sudden unusual surge in the North Sea level.
Tragically lots of lives were lost, not sure what year that was, I think maybe 1954'ish.
Maybe the BBC site On This Day has something about that.

JohnB said...

This is from Wikipedia Yvonne, better go get the salt shaker...

The North Sea flood of 1953

... and the associated storm combined to create a major natural disaster which affected the coastlines of the Netherlands and England on the night of 31 January – 1 February 1953. Belgium, Denmark and France were also affected by flooding and storm damage.

A combination of a high spring tide and a severe European windstorm caused a storm tide. In combination with a tidal surge of the North Sea the water level locally exceeded 5.6 metres above mean sea level. The flood and waves overwhelmed sea defences and caused extensive flooding.

Officially, 1,835 people were killed in the Netherlands, mostly in the south-western province of Zeeland. 307 were killed in the United Kingdom, in the counties of Lincolnshire, Norfolk, Suffolk and Essex. 28 were killed in West Flanders, Belgium.

yvonneh said...

I dont understand the salt shaker bit John but that was the floods I was talking about, in the essex area it mainly affected Jaywick, St Osyth and brightlingsea if you go into the St Osyth Magazine a local monthly booklet there are lots of versions and lots of pictures

JohnB said...

Yes I thought it was that one Yvonne, I think that and global warming may have been what prompted the building of those large floodgates on the Thames.

Hope your weather has improved, it's less muggy here today.

JohnB said...

Just so you know, I've have been asked to complete a large project so I will not be answering any comments for at least a fortnite.
Enjoy your reunion.

Ted baker said...

Hi there JohnB ive just been on the site for the 2005 reuion. great pictures But who are they.As you know im looking for Len ordway. The last time i sew Len was in 1964. ive changed in looks And so as he im 69 now. a lot fatter. i looked like a pin pole then. they used say if i turned side ways you could'nt see me. Now you cant miss me.

JohnB said...

I am just going quickly answer a couple of comments and then I must get back to my project.

There are a couple of photos of an Ernie Ordway in the new book, he attended last years reunion, I have no idea if he'll be there this year, perhaps Jackie can tell you.
Cheers.

Lynn Smith said...

Hi Ted, can't directly help you to seek information about Len Ordway, but his brother Ernie is my uncle. He is married to mum's sister Emily (nee Shelvey. To our knowledge Emily and Ernie will be at the reunion and will be able to update you on Len.

Anonymous said...

Hi
Am trying to track down a book for my father (have already bought him a copy of the latest cuckooites book!) it was apparently written by a chap who went to Brentside school, they think it's called Memoirs of a Rogue or something similar. Anyone have any ideas what it might be?
By the way I've loved having a rummage on this website, my grandparents lived in Mayfield Gardens for years so I spent a lot of my childhood playing in the area.
Regards
Alison

Tommy The Editor. said...

Hi Alison the book is available thru the auther Jim Davis who is a fellow cuckooite and contributes to this website all the time.If you send me your email address I will put you in touch with him and he will help you obtain a copy.Please contact me at
sthiggy@comcast.net

Also that makes you a cuckooite welcome to our group and your Dad.

jim davis said...

Hello Alison I am Jim Davis and my book is called Memoirs Of A Scoundrel. At the present I have just seven left though I can alway order more. As Tommy said if you send him your email address he will pass it on to me. Then I will contact you. In the mean time if you go to Google and enter. Memoirs Of A Scoundrel Jim Davis you will go to a page with a link to LULU.com. Click on the link then you will be able to see a little bit about my book. Don't be tempted to purchase it from there, it will be cheaper from me, and welcome to the site. When you have time we would all like to hear more about you and your family.

yvonneh said...

Hi there Hopefully I am on the right bit. The relay for life was on this weekend, and I pushed Ken round the grass track myself (it was tough going then I limped round a further 4 laps Our daughters went on through the night there were 8 in the team so there was always someone walking. They had lit candlebags for the memory of someone who had passed away with cancer we did one for Brian and Joan, I will send photos to tommy as it was so impressive.
the team raised £2,500 overall they raised £30,00. I entered a grand raffle and won a prize, not for me the dinner for 4 at the gatwick manor hotel. or the bhairdo at toni and guys or even the £100 of vouchers for next. Me I won 3 months worth of Kung fu lessons and a free suit, stop laughing Jim its not funny, I might just take them up so I can get my marbles back. I cant imagine where they will get a suit to fit me. It should have been sumo wrestling lessons I could have used a sheet. and a kilt pin.
never mind eh. I think great grandaughter will get a treat
just thought I would share that with you all.

jim davis said...

I would not laugh at you Yvonne, no honest I wouldn't. Look on thr bright side, It could have been a three month course in Ballet Dancing. Oh! boy I would have paid good moneyto see you in a Tou Tou doing that.

yvonneh said...

Thankyou Jim you musnt keep complimenting me, people will think we like each other. But the thought of you dancing in tights leaves me reaching for the hankies again.

JohnB said...

Just a thought....

I wonder if people are using the old past years' and months' chat rooms to make comments.
If so they may be talking to themselves again.

JohnB said...

It was the last day of winter in Australia yesterday, but it seemed more like summer than the beginning of spring.

In NSW, Evans Head hit 36.8C at 1pm, the hottest August temperature on record in NSW, while Mungindi, on the Queensland border, also reached 36C.
That's about 100F.

jim davis said...

For anyone that is interested and doesn't know this already, divide by five, multiple by nine, then add thirty two. That will give the exact conversion. Example, 25centigrade. ÷5=5x9=45+32=77

Grace said...

JIM reading your last comment about the centigrade made my eye,s water and my mind boggle, my you are clever:::::.said with tounge in cheek.

jim davis said...

It's allright Grace I didn't expect many women to understand it, because you do not have enough fingers and toes to count on.

Anonymous said...

25 centigrade

double and add 30 = 80

close but quicker?????

jim davis said...

Five and Five makes Ten. Nine is close but it is not correct.

JohnB said...

HANDY CHART

°C °F Description

100 212 Water boils
40 104 Hot Bath
37 98.6 Body temperature
30 86 Beach weather
21 70 Room temperature
10 50 Cool Day
0 32 Freezing point of water
-18 0 Very Cold Day
-40 -40 Extremely Cold Day

Notice that the last temperature numbers (minus -40 )are the same number, and we often get weather like that in our Chicago winters - cold enough to freeze the nuts off of a brass monkey no matter how you measure it.
I hope you find this chart useful if you are travelling to the North Pole, boiling an egg or taking a bath, or swimming naked.

yvonneh said...

Is this a competition, cant join this one.Mrs Woods put me off maths for life. I think Grace wins for the best comment and the biggest untruth.

jim davis said...

Oh! how sad Yvonne come on let me help you. Once two is two, two two's are four. I think that is enough for today, after you have mastered that I will teach you some more. Boy I'm all heart aren't I.?

Bert Merrett said...

Bert Merret said...
Hello Tommy, Thanks for your e-mail. One of these days my daughter will find time to visit but she is preparing for a business trip to California right now. Meanwhile my Grandson sent me an e-mail explaining things and told me to click on the website he had added in his letter. I did as he said and got in to see some of the entries already posted.

I have read the second book and enjoyed it very much. It certainly brings it all back loud and clear.
There are a number of soccer items. In one picture I see Dereck Coombes and Jimmy Stroud who were both in my class at Cuckoo Junior Boys.

When we were lads we were spoilt by having all the London teams around us and Wembley a busride away. I used to enjoy the Schoolboy Internationals and saw some great games there. Terry Venables was one of the boys I remember and Duncan Edwards who was killed in the Manchester United Munich crash. It never ceased to amaze me how accurate these young lads were and just how far they could kick the ball. For my part I played with the Drayton Manor Old Scholars ((Phoenicians) 3rd team. I probably only got picked because both my brothers were regulars in the first eleven. Anyway, as you know, these teams get allocated a couple of tickets to the F.A.Cup Final and we all put our names in a draw. One year I got a ticket and enjoyed a game there. When doing my R.A.F. National Service I played for the Headquarters team at our camp in Little Rissington, Glos, and got another ticket drawn for Wembley. Then I met up with a guy called Stanley Rouse and he got me regular tickets for a few years. One day I was on holiday and met a fellow who supported Manchester United and they were due to play that year. He had never been to Wembley so I gave him my ticket. I never let on who gave it to me.
Did you ever make it to a Cup Final or better still, play at the old stadium. My younger brother Ron was a ball-boy for one game and that was quite a thrill for him.
Have a great time at the Reunion.
Best regards, Bert Merrett.

Tommy said...

Hi Bert,glad you finnaly was able to get into the website,I played a lot of footbal as a kid going to school but never got to play at the old Wembley stadiaum.I have never seen a live cup final but did see England play there in the late 50,s.We will have a great time at the Reunion and we will raise our glasses to all the Cuckooites who have gone on to greener pastures and those who can not be with us.Glad you enjoyed our two books and hopefully we will meet up some day.

George Sivers said...

Hello to Ron Waddley - I am the last of the five on the picture of theboys posted by Del Aplin - thats it George Sivers! Do you remember the paperrounds we did together for Moores in Greenford Avenue - the last I hard of you you had married Pam and lived in Southall - I now live in Egham. Funny you should be in Lincolnshire - my brother Bob also moved up there to Holton le Clay but sadly died a few years ago - is that in your neck of the words - anyway great to see you are allive and kicking as they say

Ravi Bans said...

Helle everyone, I am trying to locate an old school friend named Stephen Collier, I went to Brentside Middle school with him from 1977 to 1981. He did live in Hanwell or Greenford area from what I remember and he had an older brother. If anyone remembers him or knows of his whereabouts then please email me on ravi777@hotmail.co.uk Many thanks, Ravinder Bans