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Wednesday, 5 August 2009

London Transport buses we rode on as kids


Great photo's from the past ,they where great buses to get us around .We all spent many a hour riding them all over the place,we could not have gotten by without them,See John's comments




29 comments:

John B said...

This is a number 65 bus.
Can you remember catching it from Scotch Common.
Do you remember how far it went?

Editor said...

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Eff said...

Loved the photo of the #55. We had to ride it every morning (for a penny) to get to school at St. Anns. If we went to the penny pop shop during dinner hour and spent our penny return fare, we had to make the long walk back to the estate, over the hill.

Beryl said...

65 bus at one time went to Chessington Zoo,I dont know if they went any further or not.

JohnB said...

That's right Beryl, they went to Ealing Broadway, then down St.Mary's Road past Ealing Tech through Richmond and onto Chessington Zoo.
I remember our school arranged for buses to take us to various places, such as Windsor Castle and even as far as Whipsnade for outings when we were Juniors.

Angela said...

Not sure how far the 65 went.Know it went to Kew.We seem to think it went to Chessington or Whipsnade zoo,but we could be wrong on all counts.
As for the 55,like Eff,when funds allowed,went to St Anns,more often than not,to face the dreaded Mrs Woods!!
Loved the shopping & cinema trips to Greenford.
Later,Jim used the 97 to get to Ealing Broadway,for work at TC Jones,at the White City. I used the same bus to het to work at James Walker.next door but one to the Town Hall.Think it is now a charity shop.
Sorry if I rattled on,but this site jogs memories .
Angela & Jim Wakenell

Angela said...

Sorry! I hadn't read the last two letters when i added my comments.

Del said...

I used to get the 65 on my way to work in South Ealing. I'd cut across the horse fields to get to Scotch Common, 7am, freezing cold, and wishing I'd stayed on at school for another year. Not a great introduction to becoming a workman.

JohnB said...

Hi Angela,
It was the 65 that went from Scotch Common, then via Ealing Broadway station, then past South Ealing tube station, through Brentford passing the Gasworks, across Kew Bridge and the Chertsey Road Roundabout through Richmond and past Ham House all the way to Chessington Zoo.
I believe there was also a 65A that did not go as far also.

The bus that went to Whipsnade was probably a Greenline or a Midlands Bus, but when we were kids at Juniors the school hired red double deckers to take kids on outings there, I think it was also a Zoo or maybe some kind of ancient chalk markings of a horse, or a man holding a club. Not sure about the chalk things, but I think Dunstable Downs may have been where went and not a zoo.
ISorry, I guess I'm not eating enough fish oil lately.

georgek said...

When I was a milkman for United Daries,the bus company had an old 211 bus parked by Scotch Common and was used for refreshments for the bus crews,they allowed me to use it as well as my milk round was around that area,Kent Gardens,Kent Ave,Scotch Common ect,ect,ect.

Angela said...

Hi John B.
funnily enough,we had been taliking about the old greenline bus.When we frst moved to the Cambrigeshire area,that was one of our main ways to get back to London.That & the whippet coaches.We have lost a lot of the transport here & wouldn't mind a good old moan about buses coming 2 at a time!
Ham house wasn't open to the public when we lived there,but we've got some pictures around it which we took on our (we're out of money) honeymoon!Didn't get far,did we?

JohnB said...

Hi Angela and George,
I remember as an art student our class went inside Ham House once.
When we were little though, for our cheap vacations we stayed with another family in Dovercourt Essex, and we catch the Grey Green Charabanc from Victoria Station all the way there. And when I was about 5yrs old, I used to catch the 105 bus from Greenford to the Goldhawk Road in Sheperds Bush to visit and play with my deaf nephew.
I paid my fare, sat upstairs and asked the clippie to give me a holler when I reached my stop. No one bothered me, I used to go quite often. Those were the days.

George did you deliver milk to Dr.Lasnick on, I think it was, Cavendish Avenue near Scotch Common?
Like Del did too, I would cross the horse fields at Caslebar and catch the 65 bus to Ealing Tech/art school, that's if I had any money after buying my Old Holborn, fag papers and beer. If I didn't which was more often than not, I would walk and cut across Jacob's Ladder, cut behind the Lido, through Walpole and Lammas Park to get there.
Blimey...I wish I could type with more than two fingers...there's something I never learned to master. Mind you I'd probably bore you all to sleep if I could.

And Roy Markwell was about two years older than me and marriedAnn or Angela Roberts, she and I were at Ealing Tech Junior dept when we were about 13 or 14, she was a lovely looking girl, and Roy was handsome too, he lived opposite me on Cuckoo, we were all mates.

Angela said...

It used to bother me that I would write to people on these pages & get no reply.I can understand more now,how this happens.For me at least I find that I read comments,think about them,intend to answer,then find that by the time I've got to doing so,can't remember; who & what I was going to answer.Please tell me it's just a senior moment,as I do remember later.Am told,by someone who has first hand experience,that senility is when you NEVER do remember.
Can anyone tell me how or where to send my scanned old junior school photo please.had told Tommy ages ago I would send it but didn't have a scanner.

Angela said...

Just wanted to add that I knew Roy Markwell,think he was around the same age as Trixie & myself.Wasn't really aware of Allan until he was going out with Trix, maybe that was when Allan was in the army.Only knew the boys in Brants Walk as we were growing up.Spread my wings a bit more once we'd left school & making weekly dates at the Park Hotel,unaware that my future husband was in the bar next door!

Angela said...

Don't want you to think that I'm taking this page over,but if anyone is interested & wasn't aware,Ham house is open to the public now.Can't remember if we found out through National Trust or word of mouth.

JohnB said...

Tommy said...
Angela,please send them to me at this email address good luck.

Editor@cuckooites.org

or

sthiggy@comcast.net

Angela you will have to first do a save as and save your photo as a Jpeg file format and attach it to your email to Tommy.

Del said...

George, were you at United Dairies in 1953/4. I think that was the year they switched from horses to electric carts? I had a holiday job there, in the servery, and I think that the managers name was Middleton. There was also an under-manager who came from Yorkshire, a miserable so-and-so.It was reckoned that the Scotch Common round was the best of the lot, particularly for Xmas boxes.

JohnB said...

Official History of the 65 bus route.

The 65, as might be expected, is quite an historic service, although inevitably has been cut back at both ends.
In 1934 it ran from North Ealing (Cleveland Road,from Scotch Common) to Leatherhead. Buses ran every 6 minutes over most of the route, but on the sparsely populated section between Hook and Leatherhead the service was reduced to every 30 minutes. New route 265 began soon after the war, starting from East Acton to join the 65 between Kew and Hook, and then diverting to serve Copt Gilders estate in Chessington.
In 1968 there was a complicated re-shuffle, with the original 265 being withdrawn and the 65 reduced to operate between Chessington (via Copt Gilders) and Ealing, the 71 making up south of Hook. The section of the 65 north of Ealing was transferred to new route 273 and in 2002 it was covered by the 297.

Beryl said...

Hi I see that someone worked for United Dairies so did I,from about 1952 or 53 until 1962.Did you work in Broomfield Road.I have some pictures of the office girls and some on an outing to Brighton if you are interesred in seeing them .Let me know and I will find them and let you know who I remember from the time I worked there.I still see one of the office girls who I worked with so we have known eachother over 50 years.

george key said...

Hi Del and Beryl,Del,I didnt start on the milk till 1957 when I got demobbed,I never did deliver to Dr Lasnick.
Beryl,you worked at Broomfield rd in the offices up stairs,I can remember after finishing the round on a Sat we had to take the round books upstairs so you ladies with your hand(not electric) adding machines would work out if the money we had collected was "over or under" the dreaded wait we used to call it.Joan & I moved into the house enjoining the yard in around 1964,with the children it was a great place to let them play when the yard was shut.Yard staff I remember Harold&Stan cannot remember the manager,some of the roundsmen were the Gillets father and son,George,who taught me when I first went there in 1957,this George always had a dew drop hanging from his nose,god knows what the customers thought of him,also Freddy Sayer,Fred Kembsly.Beryl I would love to see the photos,are you going to the reunion?,it would be nice to meet you.

Beryl said...

Hi George
Will sort out the pictures this afternoon Thank goodness footballs started so can have all afternoon with my computer.Names I remember in the office Miss Keen you didnt mess with her,Freda Stay was cashier for a long time,then over the time I was there which was about 9 years there was Mary,Eileen Mrs Shailer and daughter Peggy(meet my husband at Peggy's wedding She's had 3 or 4 I still got the same model)Mrs Wise a cashier for a while and me Beryl Arr.MILKMEN Sid and Dick Sayers Goerge Wickham (with dewdrop)Ernie Bond Ernie Tombs Fred Hill Fred Kemsly.Archie Down milk foreman Cecil or Cyril Rhodes Servery manager Mr Davey ass manager and when I left Mr Bradford Manager he came after Mr Middleton left..Well must go more later.

Del said...

I remember causing quite a stir when I turned up at the yard one day riding the Triumph Speed Twin that I'd just bought. Yes, it was Mr. Davy who came from Yorkshire. One of the Ernie's was our milkman on Greatdown. He was the last one to lose his horse and cried when the van came to take it away, There was a little second-hand book shop just round the corner, on the main road. The guy that owned it used to keep the copies of the Saturday Evening Post for me, partly because they had baseball features, but mainly for the covers which were done by Norman Rockwell, who had quite an influence on my artistic thinking at the time. Del.

beryl said...

Hi George,
Sorted out photo's more than I thought,will send some & save the others for reunion.

georgek said...

Thanks Beryl,roll on the reunion

JohnB said...

Del, I Wish we still had illustrators like Norman Rockwell instead we have mostly photography on magazine covers today.

Del said...

You're right, John, we won't see the likes of Rockwell again. I'd collected all of those covers and had them in a file but, as with so much else, once you begin a nomadic life, things just go astray. When I was in Sorrento I found one of his illustrations in an Italian magazine and made a copy, just as a technical exercise. It was fun to do, but I was glad that it wasn't one of his more detailed pictures.

Angela said...

Thought I would put this entry here as Ham House was mentioned,in part here.
It is a National Trust property & we have just (through the sky art channel) had a tour round the house & gardens,with 'The Cad'Nigel Havers.Very interesting Stuart house & beaautiful mixed gardens,from several countries.

JohnB said...

Thank you Angela, that is one of things I miss the most about England. You are all very fortunate to be able to visit in just one day out an historic house, garden, palace or castle.
There are so many places like that in England.
We have nice places here too, maybe not so old or historical, but the problem is the distances we have to travel make it hard to do it one day. So we tend to visit mostly the local ones.

Anonymous said...

I remember Ernie the Milkman very well, I used to ride with him on the new electric cart which replaced the Horse. He would let me collect the empties while he loaded up the crate to carry the full bottles to peoples door steps. I sometimes rode with him all the way to the top of Greatdown rd where i lived and he would give me threepence for helping him. People don't believe me when i tell them that the milk cart back in those days was horse drawn. I have seen many names of people I knew on this blog such as Colin Crowe, Brian Bolton,Whatever happened to the The Clancy brothers, Paul Ellingham I could go on?