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Saturday, 1 August 2009

My first Job after I left school,what was yours.

As a starter for this month, how about hearing of the first job that you had. Two weeks before leaving school, in 1945, the leavers were sent to the hall to meet the employment officer. I always remember the lad in front of me telling the man that he wanted to be a bus driver. If that wasn't bad enough,I said that I wanted to be an electrical engineer. I didn't have a clue what that involved, just that it sounded good. As it turned out, I never heard any more about it.
   My dad was still in the army and so my mum took charge and got me a job with a small printing firm, in South Ealing., the deal being that I would work there for six months and then, if I fitted in, would begin a five year apprenticeship. My job involved arriving before the workers, to clean out the pot bellied stoves and relight them. After that I would be sent out on the company bike to deliver packets of printed material to customers, usually offices on the Great West Road. Apart from the fact that it was January, and freezing cold, the bike had a badly stretched chain that fell off at every opportunity. By the middle of my third week I got so fed up with hitching the chain back onto the sprocket that I pushed it back to the shop. The boss complained about the time I'd taken and I handed in my notice. End of printing career! Del.

109 comments:

georgek said...

My first job was at a place called H P Drews,down the road past Hoovers,we made the metal covers that covered the gas flames on the cookers toasters,it was all spot welding and hand press work,they hadnt invested in power presses.On the first day I was told to go to the managers office and ask for Allens Keys,the whole shop floor was standing there laughing their heads off while the manager was explaining what the joke was!.Afew weeks later I left my hand under the press when it came down trapping my finger in the mould.Wellcome to working life!>

Tommy said...

When I first left school my first job was at Kings Butchers in West Ealing.I was paid the great sum of twenty five bob a week,what a pittance but it was more than what I was worth I am sure.It was my job to deliver all the meat orders on a bike with a big basket in front and I would ride it all over West Ealing and Hanwell.In a way I liked it as it gave me lots of freedom and I could stop by home for lunch if I was in the area.It was at this job that I met my first love Janet Gould she would come in the shop sometimes with her Mom and also come by and see me on Saturday afternoons ,West Ealing was such a busy place in those days it seems in was the place to go in those days.

yvonneh said...

My first job after leaving school was as a comptometer operator at Lyons greenford. I left after they sent me with a lot of trainees to Cadby hall we spent the morning cleaning a house and cooking dinner something I could have taught them how to do, and did. Afternoon was spent learning the comptometer. Two weeks later I was going on the pull and push to Greenford to work in the factory making greenline mints. At St Annes we had outings to factories in Perivale like ponds and cherry blossom, even the teachers looked on us as factory fodder.

jim davis said...

I wanted to be a gynecologist but in the end I just thought about it.

bob stevens said...

Jim did you become a postman then?

jim davis said...

No Bob just disappointed. It was a long time before I could concentrate on anything else. You see I had this vision, OH! BOY! did I have this vision of my first choice.

jim davis said...

Bob you Cheeky Monkey, your reference about being a postman went above my head at first. You wait till Yvonne reads it.

JohnB said...

After working my way through college with various summer holiday jobs, which included working for the council on the estate as a gardener/labourer and also working on a building site as a hod carrier, keeping four brickies going with muck and bricks all day.
My first real job when I left art school at age 21 was with one of the largest London ad agencys as an assistant creative television producer, handling all stages of the production of television and cinema commercial advertising from drawing storyboards and art direction to final answer print.
When the company eventually went bankrupt I dropped out to become a hippy for a while, then dropped back in later and ended up on Fleet Street in the art departments of The Daily Mirror, The Daily Mail and The Evening News before deciding to emigrate to the USA.

JohnB said...

"Choose a job you love, and you will never have to work a day in your life."
— Confucius

JohnB said...

I didn't say that ...Confucius did.

Sonia Fowler said...

My first job when i left St Annes was in Woolworths,West Ealing and then my second was Tesco in Greenford,it was only a little shop then before it took over the Grenada cinema.And my last job before i retired was at Tesco on the Skimpot Rd,Dunstable,Bedfordshire.

Anonymous said...

Hi Sonny, I remember when you worked at Tescos in Greenford. You would have been about 16 I think.
Dot

Anonymous said...

My first job, apart from delivering papers when I was still at school, was filing clerk at Currys Head Office in Ealing Broadway. I was 15 and found it boring so left and got a job at Hawkins Grocery Shop. It was further to go, less money, harder work and longer hours. I must have been mad.

Alan Wakenell said...

Alan Wakenel
When I first left school at the age of 15 I worked for a diamond and jewellery polishing firm in Hatton Gardens Chancery Lane. Oliver & Bennett was the company. I recieved 3 pounds a week 1 for me. 1 for me mum. and 1 for travelling fares etc. I used to have to sweep the whole place three times a day searching for any diamonds that may have been lost. If I was not sure what a diamond was I just held up a piece of grit and squeezed it with a pair of pliers. If the grit stayed firm it was a diamond. After a month I got a 10 shilling rise. This was 1958-9. After 3 months I left and tried butchery. After choping of my winckle picker with a meet axe I felt it was time to give that away. I am now working for a communication company Telecom in Auckland New Zealand and have been since 1970.

jim davis said...

Alan I wish you would be a bit more careful how you tell things, when you said you chopped off your winkle It made me go cold all over. Welcome to the site, and when you have time tell us more about yourself and your family.

Angela said...

Jim,I can tell you more about Alan Wakenell & his family. I married his brother Jim.Small world eh! Think I told the family about the site & of course many of you know our brother-in-law Allan Markwell.You may now begin to see the picture.
Alan; it's just great to see you on here at last.Jean & Len watch the site,but don't know how to contribute.Did you know they are now great grandparents? Hayley & her husband Jim (in Ireland) had a little girl,last month.
Love to all Jim & Angela

JohnB said...

Welcome aboard Alan!

Anonymous said...

Yes Dot you are right I was nearly sixteen.I worked there when I got married when I was eighteen and left when I was pregnant with my first child.But I had some good friends there also.

jim davis said...

Oh yes Angela, so you have changed your name to Alan now have you? I knew both Allan and Roy Markwell, my age was in between theirs. I also knew Trixie, she was cute back then.

Sonia said...

Hi Dot I should think you could remember that did work at tesco when i was 15 or 16.We have been friends a good few years now and i would not have it any other way.

Angela said...

Jim Davis; I've always thought you were a cheeky sod.Bet you got your legs slapped a few times¬Your right I do tend to answer for other people.Was so pleased to see Alan on here at last,possibly got a bit too excited.
We have spoken B4 when I bought your book (via my sister Dot.)also on this page.It was she,who first got us interested in the site.
Yvonne; I was also told by a teacher (Mrs Woods of course)that I wouldn't be fit for anything but a factory. Proved her wrong.Maybe these negative people do us a favour & we strive for more just for the satisfaction of prooving them wrong.

JohnB said...

My teacher tried to discourage me from going to art school.
What a boring life I would have had if I had listened to him.
I may not be a hot shot famous artist, but I really enjoyed going to art school and the career I chose.

It's a good point you have raised Angela. I think we were taught to never take no for an answer by our hard working parents and if we put our minds to it we can achieve almost anything we want to be in spite of obstacles put in our way.

jim davis said...

Don't worry Angela, speaking for other seems to be a femail trait. As Chaz and Dave says,"You have more rabbit than Sainsbury's" Yes I mean all of you. I hope you liked the book.

jim davis said...

Quite a few times in my life. I have just been drifting along going with the flow feeling pretty much contented. Then suddenly out of the blue, something has happened to makes me change directions down paths I did not really want to take. Reading what a lot of you have said my experience is not exceptional, and I would hazard a guess looking back at the large picture you are now at the place you were meant to be and it was all for the best.

JohnB said...

Blimey! ...who would of thought it.

Maybe your right,
...don't tell my wife that though,
'cos...
actually I'm supposed to be watering the flowers, doing the laundry, and getting dinner ready before she gets home from work. I'm not supposed to be sitting here on my ass and playing around on the computer, but I do feel less guilty about now.
Thanks Jim.

yvonneh said...

Oh god Angela Not THE Mrs Woods my teacher was Mrs Gill but we used to go to Mrs Woods for maths. We did not like each other at all. she was always poking me with a ruler. After putting up with it nearly all term I asked her to stop doing it as my arm was bruised, but she persisted so I got up kicked her in the shins and asked how she liked being hurt. I was relegated to doing my work outside the heads office I think it was miss haines.Anyway my dad was sent for as they were going to expel me. He didnt usually side with me , I used to get a clip round the ear for things like that, but this time he was angry that I had bruised arms and to my delight Mrs Woods was called in to the heads office and before I was sent out so the grown ups could discuss me, he told her that she was a bully and that if she did it again she would have him to answer too. I thought that was great, till we got outside the school and I got a clip round the ear for assaulting an adult and not going to him first about what she was doing, she ignored me from that day,

jim davis said...

Poor Mrs Woods, I can only imagine what she had to put up with. Seems like you haven't changed much Yvonne.

yvonneh said...

Hi angela, I share your comment about Jim he was always the same, a cheeky little Bu------
I have a Class photo of St Annes, Mrs Gills class, Trixie Wakenell is on it we were in the same class through St Annes, It is on the site in some of the earlier pages.
and Jim watch out as I havent changed,

Angela said...

Your right Yvonne.For years I thought it was just me that Mrs Woods picked on.Possibly until I read this site.One of her favourite sayings was 'Angela Cooper,your hair looks just like my mop when I've washed it & hung it on the line.' She also picked me out to find things on the map(dreaded geography)still get in a panic with maps.She did apologise to me when I went to my sister Dot's parents evening.She hadn't been aware of the home situation.
Maybe Ella is in your school picture.I remember she was in the same class as you & Trixie.She went away to school for some of the senior years though.My escape was only for the last term then off to work at Dotty Perkins,Ealing Bdy.for £2.73. a week.After fares & paying mum couldn't even afford a pair of stockings.Spent a lot of time ironing things to go into or come out of the window.Remember feeling very sorry for the ladies who had to wear those awful corsets & plastic girdles that were sold at
the time.
Hey Ho Jim D. I could later afford stockings & suspender belts!Though by then had passed the N.B.K's.that seem to have given the young JD such pleasure!!!

Angela said...

Another thing JD.You can't speak for ALL of my family.Three of them aren't even on the site.Two not in this country.Think your still a naughty little boy at heart.

jimdavis said...

Ok Angela, Mmmmm! suspender belt and stockings that is my kind of woman. Any chance of a Photo for the site? And the N.B.Ks wasn't only me, a whole crowd of us testosterone fueled young Bucks, would from time to time sit on the wall up by the station watching you girls doing P.T or netball. Of course a lot of the girls liked to show off, or perhaps flaunt themselves might be the right word to use because us lads were watching. Whilst we sat on the wall, our entertainment put on by you girls was accompanied by intelligent conversation such as, Cor! look at her, and Wow! look at them. So it wasn't only me, even our Editor Tommy wasn't averse to doing it. Anyway it was better that, than us sitting on a wall whistling at the boys. Though some might disagree with that.

Anonymous said...

My first job was in Jones and knights in West Ealing from 1955 _1959.I then went to the new Fine Fare that opened in West Ealing, I got a transfer when I got married in 12/03/1960.
Yvonne I have got copy of class photo I am in front row the teacher was Miss Pecry I think I may have the name wrong anyway next to her on left is Marjorie Scott and then the little skinny girl is me ,not so skinny now.the last time Isaw you was on the underground you were in your uniform looking very smart and I was with my boyfriend who became my husband and we will be married 50yrs in March.

Shirley Harrington(Slucock) said...

The anon letter above was again written by Shirley Harrington(Slucock)

Tommy said...

Jim ,you need to behave yourself
remember these are delicate young lady's you are talking to.Please say nothing that may offend them.

jim davis said...

OK Tom I don't think I have offended any of the women. But it seems I have you It will not happen again.

JohnB said...

I think Tommy was just kidding you...but maybe we should all tone it down a bit and save some for later.

jim davis said...

It is alright John I was just responding to Tommy's comment and I don't think he meant anything. I certainly didn't mean it when I said It won't happen again, because as long as I come to this site it will. I am what I am and that is it. In the past if Tommy and I had anything to say to each other it was not said in public, but in private emails. I feel pretty certain his opinion on that has not altered, so as far as I am concerned there is no problem.

Tommy said...

Same as allways jim,giving you a bad time.

Angela said...

J.D. Do hope Tommy was kidding with you.hate to think I might have opened another can of worms.Surely at our age we can take the rough with the smooth. If not,were not true Londiners anymore.

Angela said...

Sorry slip of the fingers!That is of course Londoners.

jim davis said...

Angela You open as many cans of worms as you like for me it makes things interesting. The way I see it, if something is said without malice and someone takes it the wrong way then that is unfortunate, and perhaps an apology would be apropriate. But we do not live in a sanitized world, in real life things are said and mistakes made and you have two choices respond, or ignore. I am happy to ignore stuff that comes on this site that is of no interest to me, and there is quite a bit of that. Does that mean they are uninteresting to everyone?. Of course not just me. So in a nutshell. We are not kids that need to be protected from the big bad wolf, so I think we should read what we want, ignore the rest and let Tommy get on with being the Editor that we all agree he does very well.

yvonneh said...

Hey Jim I think we are agreeing again. I hope people see our remarks as friendly banter, after all we have known each other for -----------years. Mind you I still want my marbles back, there not the ones youve found are they john?

jim davis said...

Oh so you think I am not serious Yvonne? that's interesting.

Anonymous said...

How lovely to have found this site!
I was doing a stall for Save The Children at Lakeside holiday camp here on Hayling Island,when I got chatting to a couple who mentioned the cuckoo estate and these pages.I lived in Brants Walk in the 60's and 70's and my grand parents and aunts lived in Greatdown Rd.I might be considered a bit young for anyone to know me though as I'm only 53.MaureenB

JohnB said...

Hi Maureen,
We would have cheap family holidays at Hayling Island some of us little kids stayed at the convent.
Jim, George and Yvonne may remember you thay were from Brants Walk.
And you are certainly not too young for us.
Welcome aboard.

jim davis said...

Hello Maureenb welcome to the site, Yvonne, George and I had all moved from Brants Walk by the time you and your folk moved there. You are a fair bit younger than most of us, but we do have some younger than you, that come to this site. When you feel comfortable about doing it tell us your maiden name. It is likely someone will know your family.

yvonneh said...

Jim you woudnt know what serious was if it bit you on the bum(oops, sorry Tom) you cant kid a kidder.
Hello Maureen and welcome, its lovely to have a broad age range. I lived at 11 brants walk till 1947 when we moved to Upfield road my younger brother Paul Holt may know you he is ten years younger than me.

georgek said...

Hi Maureen,as Jim said we had moved from Brants Walk by the time you moved there,I used to live at No 14,next door to Jim,but it would be nice to know what your last name is and what No you lived at,and any stories you may remember of the cuckoo estate

Angela said...

Funny old world.We're going to party on saturday.It's a neighbour's mother & former colleague of Jim's.We got talking & I couldn't believe what she was saying.She first mentioned Perivale.When I said our first daughter was born there, she went on to say she had later moved on to Cuckoo Ave. the bottom end near the prefabs, went to Cuckoo juniors.Sadly ,for some eason,I didn't like to ask.she was being fostered,so dosn't have the good memories so many on this site do.

Angela said...

Angela Ware. Joan & I always remembered your face.Just couldn't put a name there,would you believe!
Can't remember you in St Ann's .Did you move away or go to Drayton Manor. I can remember the two Pamela's in the left of the picture passed the 11+. The third Pamela on that end,sat behind me in St Anns. Can only see one of the Gadsby twins,we were unsure if it ws Jaquline or Geraldine.Met them both later.One was a midwife the other a psychiatric nurse.Just in case JD pops up there,I didn't meet her in a professional capacity!!
Hope life's been good to you.
Best wishes

Anonymous said...

Hello all. My name was Byrne.I was the eldest of 5 I have a sister katy, twin brothers Graham and Christopher and the youngest was Edward.We went to Brentside juniors when Kenneth Kidd was Head teacher.I went to St.Anne's and all the rest went to Brentside Seniors.They had made it mixed sex at that point so my sister ended up there too.We lived in the flats at no.31.We were the kids whose mum had died and we were moved from Greenwich to Hanwell because we had family in Greatdown rd.We were notorious I'm afraid as our father was never there or drunk.I would be surprised if we weren't known by someone!We all turned out quite well though and very respectable.I was Mayoress of our borough Havant.Thankyou for the welcomes.

Anonymous said...

I look through this site quite often and although I didnt live on the cuckoo estate I lived just up the road in Argyle Road but find it interesting... I thought my son went out with a Maureen Byrne from Brants Walk, I have just spoken to him and he remembers you well, very well, his name was Jack

JohnB said...

Hello anonymousies...
I haven't (no pun intended) a clue who you are, but to achieve what you did, become Mayor(ess) is wonderful.

Even if someone lived on the Argyle Rd., they were close enough, as the cuckoo flies to consider themselves one of us.
We are glad you enjoy the site.

jim davis said...

Ok Angela so you didn't need the midwife. Do you want to share with us your need for the psychiatrist. We do care and I promise not to laugh.

Anonymous said...

Can I ask anonymous what was Jack's surname? I am trying to remember a Jack from Argyle rd and cannot place him.Maureenb

JohnB said...

I knew a Jack Sparrow once...and it wasn't the pirate.

Val B said...

I just love it when Jim stirs things up with his banter and then has to tell us how macho he is and stands by his words. If a true cuckooite doesn't know how to take him they must have led very sheltered lives. Keep going Jim, looks like there are a few more females ready to have a go at you. oh dear, that was phrased badly too but never mind!
Welcome all you newcomers, Alan, Angela, Maureen, age doesn't matter and anyway it makes the site more interesting.
I was going to say about my first job but got carried away so will come back later.

JohnB said...

When we was little we did 'cos of the bombs.

jim davis said...

Valb, ( SNEAKY ) your praise is a little bit like a double edged sword. You keep your head down for a week or two, then come back, stir up the pot, load the ammo' then drift away and let others pull the trigger. 'You Bad Girl'.

JohnB said...

Talking of relics...I've got our wooden spoon my mum used to stir up the Xmas Pudding mix...ooops! sorry wrong page.

Anonymous said...

My first job was at Richard Shops in West Ealing.Now there's a blast from the past.MaureenB

JohnB said...

My wife used to like that shop.

Anonymous said...

JohnB, Ithink that the convent was what I knew as the choir school.It was knocked down some years ago and is now a council estate.MaureenB

JohnB said...

I'm not sure if what actually the same place Maureen, I was so little.
There were nuns there though.
When I got a little older we stayed at a bed and breakfast nearby which had a donkey in the front garden.

ValB said...

Taken the bandages off my knuckles now Jim!
My very first Saturday job was working at the Hillside Library behind the sweet counter then I left and worked with four of my school friends at the Co-op department store in Acton. They out me on Soft Furnishings and I had to learn to cut curtain material in a straight line. I wasn't much good at it!On top of that I got into trouble with our games mistress as it meant I couldn't play netball on a Saturday for the school team any more.However, I ended up forming my own netball team a few years later and went on to play and run the league for the next 25 years. I digress.. (doing a JohnB) ..Upon leaving school I worked for a small engineering company in Northfields called Ottways and was in the wages and costing office. My only other paid job was working for the BBC where I stayed for 25 years until I took early retirement. After that I did voluntary work at the Citizens Advice Bureau for ten years. Now all I do is run the Blind Bowlers but that keeps me more than busy. We are now in our 14th year and were featured on Hayes FM radio yesterday morning.
By the way John B, what relic was you referring to?

JohnB said...

Uh?

jim davis said...

I thought he was talking about you. It is funny how things so innocent can be misunderstood. Unless of course you were talking about her John. But then I don't care either way.

Val B said...

ooh get you! Don't care was made to care. Sounds like I am a misunderstood, innocent relic.
You wait you lot!

JohnB said...

Oh! now I see what you both must be talking about.
I was referring to my mum's wooden spoon, the one we used to make a wish and stir the Christmas pudding mix.
It is funny how things get misunderstood, I guess I'll have to be more careful how I phrase things in the future.
Anyway Val you don't look a day older than 29 to me, and nothing like a wooden spoon.
I can't imagine how that got misconstrued.
Well,I think I'd better take a leaf out of your book and book my vacation now, I may book a trip to the Antarctic, or Denali, somewhere cool and far enough away from the heat and humidity we are getting here now.
It's very uncomfortable unless you stay inside with the air conditioning on and walk around in your birthday suit like I am now.
See you in the Fall.
Cheers.
ps. I better not forget to pack my nice wooly red Long Johns.

JohnB said...

Ooops! Sorry, there I go rambling on again, I guess that was just too much information.

yvonneh said...

You wont need your long Johns Why are they called Johns? the weather here is so muggy, no air at all, Ken is having a rough time as he is on oxygen 24 hrs a day, this weather does not help him. I think you are doing great Val you are tying Jim up in little Knots. I remember those awful corsets ,my mum used to wear them and she was slim, I believe in freedom. Do you remember the liberty bodices with rubber buttons? dreadful things, Please tell me what convent you are referring to as I cannot find anything that relates to a convent in this months letters and it seems out of place. OOOh Jim you have certainly met your match

jim davis said...

Don't worry about it John, I know you was talking about your mums spoon. But untill you said the word relic no one else had. You chose to use it almost directly after Valb had been talking, and as she is a woman, well do I need to say any more?

jim davis said...

Missunderstood, innocent, relic. Two out of three wrong and one right Valb. I'll leave it up to you which one is right.

jim davis said...

Hello Yvonne I was getting a bit worried about you. I thought maybe your broom was in for a service and you couldn't get about much. Seriously my heart goes out to your Ken he sure is one tough cookie.

JohnB said...

Oh my I can't believe that my mum's spoon has caused so much pandemonium.

Over here Yvonne we get weather alerts, especially in July and August. It can get extremely hot and humid with heat indexes exceeding 100f. They advise older or people with breathing difficulties to stay inside in the air conditioning and not go out.
It seems with global warming England gets much more hot and humid weather now. When we were kids I think 75f was a heatwave.
Take care of your Ken, Yvonne I know you will.
All the best to you both.

Anonymous said...

Where we stayed for cheap holiday at, was a convent in Hayling island when I was little, at least it seemed like a convent, there were a lot of nuns, but maybe it was a Catholic school, but looked like a Church to me. Tony and I got into trouble with the nuns because we hadn't had any breakfast one Sunday morning because we were going to take Holy Communion. It was so hot in the church Tony nearly fainted and went outside but left me by myself, a little later I felt woozy too and had to go out and get some air. Boy those nuns made us think we were going to hell for that. I was only four or five and quite innocent of course and believed what the nuns said for about a week.

JohnB said...

I don't know why they are called Johns, that's whats rotten about my name everything is called John or Johnny it seems.

JohnB said...

Maybe we weren't going to take communion.
I remember my confirmation wasn't 'til I was about 8 or 9, I think.
For some reason they didn't give us any breakfast that morning though.

JohnB said...

What did you do at the BBC Val?

JohnB said...

Are liberty bodices the same thing as stays??

JohnB said...

Did you ever check out the Beep Baseball (the vision impaired) we have over here Val?
That's a great thing you are doing for them, I bet they all love you for it.

ValB said...

Hi Yvonne, just trying to fill in the gap, goading Jim, while you are so busy looking after Ken. He must be having a rough time at the moment with this warm spell again.Hope for both your sakes that it doesn't last too long. I love the warm weather myself and at the end of this week we are off to France and Northern Spain for two weeks. Temperatures are reportedly in the 30's so nearly as hot as your town John. I forgive you and accept your explaination about the relic.Its that Jim Davis that twists things around.Two out of three indeed! I must be innocent surely?

ValB said...

John I had a good chuckle when you said about your name.
I remember checking out Beep baseball when you told me about it several years ago but have forgotten some of it now. Must be old age, OK, perhaps I'm a relic after all!
I worked in the engineering division of the BBC where we supplied, sourced or manufactured, parts for studios, transmitters, OB's etc and ended up as Stock Control manager for the last ten years of my service.I was the only female manager in a male orientated building, so had to learn to stand my ground. It wasn't the glamour side of the Beeb but I did come into contact with quite a few well knowns. At least it pays me a good pension now, hence the holidays.

JohnB said...

Thanks Val, I say three How's Your Fathers for us.

Sorry that earlier anonymous was me but I guess you all knew that.
On with the motley!

jim davis said...

Valb If you are still in contact with people at the BBC, do me a favour and ask if they have any vacancies for film stars. I could do with a part time job.

ValB said...

Still have some influence Jim, what do you want, a period drama as Ivanhoe or a horror movie, say King Kong?

jim davis said...

It might surprise you to know that I am a incurable romantic Valb. I think period drama would be nice. The pantaloons the women wore remind me of you know what, apart from the colour.

Anonymous said...

Help!What's a liberty bodice and what's a stay?Are they corsets?!!Forgive me I'm young!!!!!MaureenB

yvonneh said...

Maureen a liberty bodice was designed to keep us flat chested, it was used on pubescent girls it was worn in place of a vest and was like a waistcoat but for some reason had rubber buttons, perhaps they were so it could expand. Stays were another form of corset but I think they had rubber hook type things on the end for keeping your stockings up, no tights in our day.Jim Ive got the tissues out again as the only thing I can picture you as is Henry the eighth.
JohnB St Annes used to be next door to St Joseph and we used to see the nuns at playtime bashing the kids, they were really spiteful and we told them so.
Thanks for the kind words everyone, Kens not doing too badly his breathing will not improve until they get on top of the anemia. He has to see a anemia nurse at St Helier hospital for iron infusions, we are awaiting an appointment, and for all our american friends, dont listen to the insurance companies running down our NHS as they stand to lose a lot of money if Obama brings in free medication and hospitals. If it were not for the NHS Ken would not be here as no insurance company would look at him, the home care he gets is second to none. People like Dr Lasnic I am sure would have fully agreed with the fact that the NHS should be free to all, as he would never charge those who couldnt afford it,
Everybody regardless of their income is entitled to the best medical care that can be given, Listen to us Brits as we have the finest health care in the world. Long may it continue. So that people like Ken get all the treatment they rightly deserve.

yvonneh said...

Thanks Val for keeping Jim in his place you are doing a great job.

jim davis said...

Yvonne & Valb.You two make me laugh, you are like kids sucking up to each other for support. I suppose you will be getting Grace out of retirement soon. That's if you can get her away from that corner.

JohnB said...

I thought that's what stays and liberty bodices were for.

The Editor said...

I am so sorry Yvonne how could I have missed your kind remarks about me reminding you of Henry VIII. To know you think of me as a King amongst men, and dare I say remind you of the most famous English King of all makes me feel so humble, it even made me blush.

Tommy your Editor. said...

That last comment was not put on by me.

Grace said...

I have been working my socks off these last 10 days haven,t had time to stand on street corners,done some decorating caught up with the garden making room in the wardrobes and drawer,s[not what you are thinking JIM]for my sister,s .
have been reading the comments ,enjoyed the jokes and the banter i,read all that is going on, sorry to hear Yvonneh that the hot weather has affected Ken ,a bit cooler here today .Out for a cream tea tomorrow a Quiz on sat ,.its a pity there are not 2 of me then 1 of us could have a rest i,m hoping my sister,s will take pity on me and let me put my feet up as i,m the eldest.
We have 3 other reunions besides the cuckooites comming up in Sept some we have never met other,s i haven,t seen for over 50 yrs found a few more relations these last 3 months whilst doing the family tree. will keep in touch .

jim davis said...

No Tom that was me, I don't know how that happenned.

yvonneh said...

Tom only Jim could be that big headed thats why he reminded me of henry viii, As well as those short legs.
Grace you are not putting your sister in the wardrobe are you? Will she fit. Looks as though you have a busy month. Nice to hear from you. It is a bit cooler and Kens breathing has improved thank goodness.

jim davis said...

Go away Yvonne you know you don't mean it.

jim davis said...

Hello Grace, how long have you been doing you family tree?. There are a few of us researching our ancestors on cuckooites and it is very interesting isn't it?. From 1860 all my folk were born in London. But the 200 years before that I discovered they were Cotswolds born and bred and that was a surprise. Have you found anything that you did not expect in yours.?

Anonymous said...

thanks for the info on liberty bodices and stays yvonne.MaureenB

jim davis said...

Yeah! thanks for that Yvonne. Could they be worn with NBKs?

georgek said...

Jim, the less clothes the better!!!

jim davis said...

Now that sounds reall good to me George.

Grace said...

Yvonneh that is a good idea about my sister,s in the wardrobes they are with me for 3 weeks so i may do that if they dont do as they are told .better still i could make them sleep in the garage as i have had a clear out of that today,had a few heavy storms here and plenty of rain ,but lovey sunshine now see you soon .

Grace said...

Jim been doing the family history for a while was so surprised to find my Dad,s ancesters came from Bucks about 13 miles from where i live.have had a few shocks along the way in fact none of my ancesters came from London they were Rutland,Hastings,Essex and Bucks,the relations we have just found were from my uncle who was married 3 times so his children are well scatterd ,but still it keeps me out of mischief. i see you still have NBK on your mind.

yvonneh said...

Jim I wore liberty bodices till I was about eight then got nmy first vest, so yes I wore them with NBKs, however you couldnt wear stays with them as the leg of the NBKs would get in the way. Grace enjoy your sisters, it is lovely when the family get together, lots of arguments but lots of love and you can always relegate them to the wardrobe if they become too much. See you soon, Maureen glad I could help. My mum used to wear a corset with laces that we had to tie up tight to give her a waist, not that she was big, but she was always smatly dressed. the problem started when she and dad would go to the white hart and when she came back I had to undress her and get the awful laces undone, with her laughing and giggling, we both used to be in fits at the end

JohnB said...

Well,.... my last job may well prove to be assisting with the publications of our books.

I'd be passing the hat at the reunion folks,...that's if I could afford the air fare.

What's that Latin proverb...Gratis non ????
Means all work and no bloomin' pay or something, Tommy, Jackie and JohnH (if he ever shows up for work again) know what I mean.

Beryl Bradford ( Bolton ) said...

Hi Yvonneh,
Just caught up on the cuckooties & I see my sister Grace is thinging of put us up in the garage or in her wardrobe if we are any trouble. We are angels, we wait on her hand foot and finger. But after her comments/ thing could change in a big way. ( I think we might superglue her feet to that street corner, so she can not run off.)That will teach her not to mess with the youger siblings. keep the good work up it dose give my a laugh. Beryl.

yvonneh said...

Hi Beryl,
Imake you laugh!!! the thought of you super glueing Grace to the corner makes me reach once again for my tissues, I hope she has her slippers on. You have a great time together it is so precious.